tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2597802203060019669.post3906872714776783440..comments2023-09-06T02:12:47.371-06:00Comments on Life is Better with Sheltie Hair: Contact TrainingGeeRomehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17884508026032198770noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2597802203060019669.post-27372181991648662322008-11-15T11:19:00.000-06:002008-11-15T11:19:00.000-06:00yes I find the hand touch very difficult to do for...yes I find the hand touch very difficult to do for the same reasons as you. They used to teach contacts by using a clear piece of plexiglass at the bottom of the contact. <BR/><BR/>I can't remember why they changed - there was some reason for it but I just don't remember, Anyways they will probably fade it out pretty quickly and just go with a nose touch to the ground / clear plexiglass.<BR/><BR/>I would be doing the same thing as you at home too. You gotta do what works for you and your dogs.Casper and palshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18354068393069681079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2597802203060019669.post-55555412766319512112008-11-11T10:02:00.000-06:002008-11-11T10:02:00.000-06:00Thank guys! The reasons you gave were essentially ...Thank guys! The reasons you gave were essentially the same that I had that made me want to switch up the methods. I did start with a lid, but have started working on fading that out and giving a click for a nose to the ground. With that, I have already started adding distance in to the contact work, so that I don't need to be right beside him all the time. Because face it, this fat kid is never gonna keep up with a Sheltie! I need to be able to work away from him. hahaGeeRomehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17884508026032198770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2597802203060019669.post-85066394525584156232008-11-11T06:06:00.000-06:002008-11-11T06:06:00.000-06:00I agree with Kim. There is no way to beat a dog t...I agree with Kim. There is no way to beat a dog to the end of the dogwalk for a hand touch. I think what your teaching is fine. It sounds the the susan garrett method except she first has them nose touch a target and then fades the target and they touch the ground. But if your dog can just nose touch the ground then there is no need for that step. Sounds good to me. DianaDianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16378710392378543981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2597802203060019669.post-57979152261865722252008-11-10T21:09:00.000-06:002008-11-10T21:09:00.000-06:00IMO, teaching contacts with a hand touch would be ...IMO, teaching contacts with a hand touch would be difficult, especially with a dog with any speed (and really, even the slow dogs can outrun a person). In our classes we teach the 2o/2o using a clear target (like a pringle lid) at the end of the contact. Clear contacts are easier to fade away than white one are. A target, as opposed to a hand touch, will also teach your dog independent contacts - you do not want your dog to "need" you there to be able to find his position, you want them driving to the bottom and then waiting to be released. This method also keeps the dog looking down as he comes down the equipment. This is what you want. You do not want your dog looking up for your hand, as this can put a huge strain on your dog's neck and back. You want the dog's head, neck and spine in a nice straight line as they come down the contact equipment and having the target on the ground help with this. Since Romeo is clicker savvy, you should have no problem teaching him what is job is at the end of the contact. I think you are making the right decision in not using the hand touch and he should catch on very quickly.Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12458202443267057755noreply@blogger.com